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[Freedos-user] Resize partition without data loss
Christian Imhorst
2014-10-21 13:43:16 UTC
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Hi,

I have a 500MB FreeDOS partition on a 4 GB virtual hard disk. The rest of
the disk is empty. Is it possible to resize the 500 MB to the whole disk
without losing data? Do I use FDISK for this or another program?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Christian
Mateusz Viste
2014-10-21 13:50:45 UTC
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Post by Christian Imhorst
I have a 500MB FreeDOS partition on a 4 GB virtual hard disk. The rest
of the disk is empty. Is it possible to resize the 500 MB to the whole
disk without losing data? Do I use FDISK for this or another program?
Yes, it is possible, but not with FDISK.
I'd highly suggest using a liveCD for this, like this one:
http://www.sysresccd.org

With such liveCD, you would be able to perform the resizing operation
with a few mouse clicks via the Linux GParted tool. This without losing
data (of course, like anything in IT, there's no guarantee whatsoever,
so you'd be advised to have backups, just in case, but resizing
partitions with GParted always worked perfectly for me).

Alternatively, you could also use your 500M partition for the OS only,
and create a second partition on the rest of the drive for data,
programs, etc, to keep things organized.

Mateusz
J. Bulterman
2014-10-21 13:48:52 UTC
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I guess this is where GPartEd comes in.
That is a Linux distribution that you can run from a CD or DVD that is
specialized in resizing partitions without data loss.
Post by Christian Imhorst
Hi,
I have a 500MB FreeDOS partition on a 4 GB virtual hard disk. The rest
of the disk is empty. Is it possible to resize the 500 MB to the whole
disk without losing data? Do I use FDISK for this or another program?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Christian
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Marco Antonio Achury Palma
2014-10-21 16:23:45 UTC
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I'm the 90's I used a program named Fips, don't know if such program
continues under development

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Post by J. Bulterman
I guess this is where GPartEd comes in.
That is a Linux distribution that you can run from a CD or DVD that is
specialized in resizing partitions without data loss.
Post by Christian Imhorst
Hi,
I have a 500MB FreeDOS partition on a 4 GB virtual hard disk. The rest
of the disk is empty. Is it possible to resize the 500 MB to the whole
disk without losing data? Do I use FDISK for this or another program?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Christian
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Don Flowers
2014-10-21 18:22:36 UTC
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Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but FreeDOS
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have found
only one thing that works:
Partition Resizer available here:

http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm

Ranish is supposed to do it, but it didn't work for me.
Post by Marco Antonio Achury Palma
I'm the 90's I used a program named Fips, don't know if such program
continues under development
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Post by J. Bulterman
I guess this is where GPartEd comes in.
That is a Linux distribution that you can run from a CD or DVD that is
specialized in resizing partitions without data loss.
Post by Christian Imhorst
Hi,
I have a 500MB FreeDOS partition on a 4 GB virtual hard disk. The rest
of the disk is empty. Is it possible to resize the 500 MB to the whole
disk without losing data? Do I use FDISK for this or another program?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Christian
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dmccunney
2014-10-21 18:39:12 UTC
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Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but FreeDOS
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have found
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.

The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
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Don Flowers
2014-10-21 18:45:30 UTC
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Thanks Dennis. My mistake -- I've forgotten how many broken links
I've run across in my DOS apps search. it's a like a treasure hunt. :)
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but FreeDOS
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have found
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
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dmccunney
2014-10-21 20:21:16 UTC
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Post by Don Flowers
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but FreeDOS
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have found
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
Thanks Dennis. My mistake -- I've forgotten how many broken links
I've run across in my DOS apps search. it's a like a treasure hunt. :)
Dave's link is almost right - it needs www prepended.

But yeah, finding links to DOS stuff can take digging. Garbo going
off the air was a big loss, though fortunately a mirror exists.

I can generally find stuff: the challenge is remembering what it was
called so I can do a proper search. :-/
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Ralf Quint
2014-10-21 23:07:00 UTC
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Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but FreeDOS
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have found
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
That's even worse, it redirects to an "attack" web site these days...

Ralf

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dmccunney
2014-10-22 00:25:36 UTC
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Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but FreeDOS
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have found
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
That's even worse, it redirects to an "attack" web site these days...
Hmmmm. I use Firefox, which uses a Google maintained list of attack
sites. I had no problem accessing it the first time.

But I run Firefox with the NoScript addon that blocks scripting unless
the site is in a user maintained whitelist. With scripting off,
there's nary a peep from FF. When I *enable* scripting, I get the
warning screen, talking about tzdpc.com.

PRESZ134.ZIP is available from a number of sources:
http://www.filewatcher.com/m/presz134.zip.100192-0.html, so zeleps
status isn't a problem.
Post by Ralf Quint
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Dale E Sterner
2014-10-22 14:48:38 UTC
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If I were trying to increase 500 mb to 4 gig I'd do it this way.
I'd use Norton Ghost(2001) to copy the 500mb partition to a suitable
formatted cf chip.
I'd then use fdisk to remove the old partitions and fdisk to make a new
4gig
partition. Remember to make the partition active and to then run
fdisk/mbr to get
a fresh mbr then format the drive. Then I'd use Ghost to copy the cf chip
back to the harddrive or
just buy a cf adapter and run the cf chip instead of the harddrive.

cheers
DS
Post by Christian Imhorst
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but
FreeDOS
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have
found
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
That's even worse, it redirects to an "attack" web site these
days...
Hmmmm. I use Firefox, which uses a Google maintained list of attack
sites. I had no problem accessing it the first time.
But I run Firefox with the NoScript addon that blocks scripting
unless
the site is in a user maintained whitelist. With scripting off,
there's nary a peep from FF. When I *enable* scripting, I get the
warning screen, talking about tzdpc.com.
http://www.filewatcher.com/m/presz134.zip.100192-0.html, so zeleps
status isn't a problem.
Post by Ralf Quint
Ralf
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Don Flowers
2014-10-22 19:00:15 UTC
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DS: "If I were trying to increase 500 mb to 4 gig I'd do it this way.
I'd use Norton Ghost(2001) to copy the 500mb partition to a suitable
formatted cf chip.

In reality, here is what I do:

My setup is a 320gb hd. 1st partition is 2.0gb for Compaq DOS 5.0
(all my machines are compaq sff desktops); 2nd partition is 9g, for
FreeDOS, The rest of hard drive contains Ubuntu 14.04 LXDE. I boot to
the LXDE (remove unwanted files-usually downloads and test
installations of shareware that I dont't like, then I zip my dos
systems, then boot into xfdisk and the boot manager, and reformat and
then back to the LXDE to unzip my archived systems on the new
partition. The final step is to update grub. I've done this several
times with numerous drives and I''ve never had data loss .
DF
Post by Dale E Sterner
If I were trying to increase 500 mb to 4 gig I'd do it this way.
I'd use Norton Ghost(2001) to copy the 500mb partition to a suitable
formatted cf chip.
I'd then use fdisk to remove the old partitions and fdisk to make a new
4gig
partition. Remember to make the partition active and to then run
fdisk/mbr to get
a fresh mbr then format the drive. Then I'd use Ghost to copy the cf chip
back to the harddrive or
just buy a cf adapter and run the cf chip instead of the harddrive.
cheers
DS
Post by Christian Imhorst
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but
FreeDOS
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have
found
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
That's even worse, it redirects to an "attack" web site these
days...
Hmmmm. I use Firefox, which uses a Google maintained list of attack
sites. I had no problem accessing it the first time.
But I run Firefox with the NoScript addon that blocks scripting
unless
the site is in a user maintained whitelist. With scripting off,
there's nary a peep from FF. When I *enable* scripting, I get the
warning screen, talking about tzdpc.com.
http://www.filewatcher.com/m/presz134.zip.100192-0.html, so zeleps
status isn't a problem.
Post by Ralf Quint
Ralf
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Christian Imhorst
2014-10-23 10:30:41 UTC
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Hi all,

thank you very much for your great suggestions. Especially FIPS and
Partition Resizer. I tried both, but I am only able to resize partitions
with these programs and not to merge two partions to one.

I'll try GParted and hope it will do it well.

Thanks a lot.

Christian
Post by Don Flowers
DS: "If I were trying to increase 500 mb to 4 gig I'd do it this way.
I'd use Norton Ghost(2001) to copy the 500mb partition to a suitable
formatted cf chip.
My setup is a 320gb hd. 1st partition is 2.0gb for Compaq DOS 5.0
(all my machines are compaq sff desktops); 2nd partition is 9g, for
FreeDOS, The rest of hard drive contains Ubuntu 14.04 LXDE. I boot to
the LXDE (remove unwanted files-usually downloads and test
installations of shareware that I dont't like, then I zip my dos
systems, then boot into xfdisk and the boot manager, and reformat and
then back to the LXDE to unzip my archived systems on the new
partition. The final step is to update grub. I've done this several
times with numerous drives and I''ve never had data loss .
DF
Post by Dale E Sterner
If I were trying to increase 500 mb to 4 gig I'd do it this way.
I'd use Norton Ghost(2001) to copy the 500mb partition to a suitable
formatted cf chip.
I'd then use fdisk to remove the old partitions and fdisk to make a new
4gig
partition. Remember to make the partition active and to then run
fdisk/mbr to get
a fresh mbr then format the drive. Then I'd use Ghost to copy the cf chip
back to the harddrive or
just buy a cf adapter and run the cf chip instead of the harddrive.
cheers
DS
Post by Christian Imhorst
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
Gparted will not do it properly. You will not lose data, but
FreeDOS
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
will not report the correct size of the new partition. I have
found
Post by Ralf Quint
Post by dmccunney
Post by Don Flowers
http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/utils.htm
The link from Dave's site is broken here.
The direct link - http://www.zeleps.com/ - works.
That's even worse, it redirects to an "attack" web site these
days...
Hmmmm. I use Firefox, which uses a Google maintained list of attack
sites. I had no problem accessing it the first time.
But I run Firefox with the NoScript addon that blocks scripting
unless
the site is in a user maintained whitelist. With scripting off,
there's nary a peep from FF. When I *enable* scripting, I get the
warning screen, talking about tzdpc.com.
http://www.filewatcher.com/m/presz134.zip.100192-0.html, so zeleps
status isn't a problem.
Post by Ralf Quint
Ralf
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dmccunney
2014-10-23 13:41:09 UTC
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Christian Imhorst
Post by Christian Imhorst
thank you very much for your great suggestions. Especially FIPS and
Partition Resizer. I tried both, but I am only able to resize partitions
with these programs and not to merge two partions to one.
You don't merge. You delete the second and expand the first.

Since the partition you are trying to merge with another is empty,
there is no loss in deleting it.
Post by Christian Imhorst
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Louis Santillan
2014-10-23 17:04:41 UTC
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I'd test that merge capability. IIRC, later versions of ghost and
partition magic could do that.
Post by dmccunney
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Christian Imhorst
Post by Christian Imhorst
thank you very much for your great suggestions. Especially FIPS and
Partition Resizer. I tried both, but I am only able to resize partitions
with these programs and not to merge two partions to one.
You don't merge. You delete the second and expand the first.
Since the partition you are trying to merge with another is empty,
there is no loss in deleting it.
Post by Christian Imhorst
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Carl Spitzer
2014-10-24 00:43:30 UTC
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Gparted the bootable cd does this easily.

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