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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a netbook?
Campbell, John NAVSEA
2009-01-08 15:49:10 UTC
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Has anyone ever thought about installing (or has installed) Free-DOS on
any of the new Netbooks, such as the Asus Eee PC S101? I would be very
interested in your experiences.
Eric Auer
2009-01-08 17:51:44 UTC
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Hi guys,
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
Has anyone ever thought about installing (or has installed) Free-DOS on
any of the new Netbooks, such as the Asus Eee PC S101? I would be very
interested in your experiences.
For the sake of experiment, I once ran FreeDOS from USB
stick on one of the 7in Asus EEE PC netbooks. I would
recommend shrinking your eyes and fingers first... ;-).
Apart from that problem, nothing exciting went wrong.

Keyboard and screen worked. Did not test sound or lan
or even wlan. Dunno whether the "mouse" worked. Would
be nice if somebody could try again on 9in/10in EEE PC.

Eric

PS: I believe fdapm failed to do anything ACPI (throttle,
suspend, poweroff) but fdapm apmdos and pcisleep worked?

PPS: Now that Windows for OLPC is old news, did somebody
try whether the corresponding "PC BIOS" now runs FreeDOS?
Campbell, John NAVSEA
2009-01-08 18:18:06 UTC
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Thanks very much. Your comment on "shrinking your eyes and fingers" is
duly noted. I am particularly interested in using the netbook as a data
logger for an ascii text stream to the RS-232 serial com port. I could
use Windows hyperterminal for this but I like the notion of using DOS.
It's very clean and relatively easy to automate for a dedicated
function, especially one involving text only. I assume that none of the
netbooks would have a standard com port so I was thinking that I could
use a USB-serial adapter to create a virtual com port. Does anyone know
if there are any available DOS drivers for these adapters?

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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on a netbook?


Hi guys,
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
Has anyone ever thought about installing (or has installed) Free-DOS
on any of the new Netbooks, such as the Asus Eee PC S101? I would be
very interested in your experiences.
For the sake of experiment, I once ran FreeDOS from USB stick on one of
the 7in Asus EEE PC netbooks. I would recommend shrinking your eyes and
fingers first... ;-).
Apart from that problem, nothing exciting went wrong.

Keyboard and screen worked. Did not test sound or lan or even wlan.
Dunno whether the "mouse" worked. Would be nice if somebody could try
again on 9in/10in EEE PC.

Eric

PS: I believe fdapm failed to do anything ACPI (throttle, suspend,
poweroff) but fdapm apmdos and pcisleep worked?

PPS: Now that Windows for OLPC is old news, did somebody try whether the
corresponding "PC BIOS" now runs FreeDOS?





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Eric Auer
2009-01-09 09:08:54 UTC
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Hi :-)
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
"shrinking your eyes and fingers"
Actually the 10in eee-pc and a more recent "9in with
wider keyboard" seem to be quite okay, I read... :-)
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
I am particularly interested in using the netbook as a data
logger for an ascii text stream to the RS-232 serial com port.
I assume most netbooks have no real serial port any more.
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
I could use Windows hyperterminal for this but
I like the notion of using DOS.
Note that many netbooks are also available with Linux ;-)
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
It's very clean and relatively easy to automate for a
dedicated function, especially one involving text only.
If you log data in dos, it does not really matter whether
it is text or binary, but it does matter that dos gives
you all the cpu unless you ask dos to do work for you :-).

I once used that for "real-time" data logging to RAM with
a 32-bit (DJGPP compiled) C program. As nothing else uses
much space, my program had many megabytes of space to pool
data and then write it to harddisk in experiment pauses.
In particular if you write to USB flash, either with BIOS
help or with DOS drivers, you should expect some latency.
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
I assume that none of the netbooks would have a standard
com port so I was thinking that I could use a USB-serial
adapter to create a virtual com port. Does anyone know
if there are any available DOS drivers for these adapters?
For PS/2 (keyboard, mouse) and now also for storage (flash
but also floppy/harddisk) the BIOS will "be your driver".
Only a few BIOSes support LPT or COM over USB, I believe.

What you can do is use the dosusb driver by Georg Potthast
which also has some "serial over USB" support. The COM-USB
part is relatively new, so you could help testing it. The
driver comes in two parts: The USB stack and a small driver
which converts requests for a DOS character device into USB
requests to the stack. You can also buy the source code if
you want to fine-tune things yourself. The interface of the
stack is documented, so you can write new drivers which use
the USB stack as a black box which does the lowlevel work.

Note that the DOSUSB stack does not support IRQ or callbacks
yet, so the COM-USB module might be using (slower) polling.

Eric
Post by Campbell, John NAVSEA
Has anyone ever thought about installing (or has installed) FreeDOS
on any of the new Netbooks, such as the Asus Eee PC S101?
PS: This is a "slim 25mm, high price" variant of the EEE PC,
so maybe it is better to use a PC104 single board PC to save
even more space. With the S101, you pay for XP, 10in display
1.6 GHz CPU, 16 GB SSD, 16 GB SD and 1 GB RAM... but you can
already gather data in DOS each msec on a Pentium III or so.

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